tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35360257.post3744782678713532247..comments2024-01-25T07:53:27.067-05:00Comments on Thinking Space: We are in a new transition, part 1Yihong Dinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08410466834942147505noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35360257.post-44580029836114539062012-01-10T10:18:52.686-05:002012-01-10T10:18:52.686-05:00Do you think that Syria spying on dissidents?Do you think that Syria spying on dissidents?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35360257.post-27420123019200691172008-08-12T10:32:00.000-04:002008-08-12T10:32:00.000-04:00thank you, PADMANABHAN. I am glad that we have the...thank you, PADMANABHAN. I am glad that we have the same view of the future. ;-)Yihong Dinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08410466834942147505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35360257.post-63428410932122227742008-08-12T06:11:00.000-04:002008-08-12T06:11:00.000-04:00What a coincidence is this. Last week I wrote the ...What a coincidence is this. Last week I wrote the similar subject in my personal diary.<BR/>I think the similar thought waves are spreading and transforming our planetN.PADMANABHANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192522175285967339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35360257.post-10140673540115258162008-06-05T07:59:00.000-04:002008-06-05T07:59:00.000-04:00Thank you Yihong. I look forward to part two.Thank you Yihong. I look forward to part two.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35360257.post-57596100209696652212008-06-01T03:51:00.000-04:002008-06-01T03:51:00.000-04:00Thank you, Adam.I like your suggestion of naming t...Thank you, Adam.<BR/><BR/>I like your suggestion of naming the new age to be the mind age. As I commented earlier to Gene, "harmonious" might be too perfect to describe a human society since we know that human society has never been and probably will never ever be as perfect as harmony. But to our best wish, we expect that the coming new age would be at least a more harmonious society than any of the previous ones.<BR/><BR/>Actually mind is an asset in human society with long history. But mind has never been the key asset of society before. In Part 2 I am planning extending my discussion on mind asset and I am looking for discussing more about it with you too. <BR/><BR/>But anyway, I greatly appreciate your analogy about from Solid/Feudal to Gas/Mind. Great analogy always brings people more originality. I think this analogy indeed solves many puzzles originally in my mind. Suddenly many previous unrelated thoughts become connected together through this brilliant analogy. <BR/><BR/>I will post the second part of my response soon (I am busy in writing it now). Probably I will make a brief introduction of Imindi in the post too. Hopefully it may help bring a few momentum for the company to move forward.Yihong Dinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08410466834942147505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35360257.post-33524499810643340702008-06-01T01:07:00.000-04:002008-06-01T01:07:00.000-04:00Sorry - I made a confusing typo.I wrote "we are no...Sorry - I made a confusing typo.<BR/><BR/>I wrote "we are now in a transition that will lead to Solid/Mind Age" <BR/><BR/>I obviously meant to write:-<BR/><BR/>"we are now in a transition that will lead to a Gas/Mind Age"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35360257.post-22439739180582751442008-06-01T01:04:00.000-04:002008-06-01T01:04:00.000-04:00Hi Yihong. I think that it might be safer to use t...Hi Yihong. I think that it might be safer to use the phrase "Mind Age" to refer to the next stage of evolution. <BR/><BR/>The states of matter to states of society analogy is fundamentally concerned with the manner in which wealth is produced distributed and stored as assets. <BR/><BR/>The analogy takes us from Solid/Feudal Age through Liquid/Capitalistic Age and we are now in a transition that will lead to Solid/Mind Age.<BR/><BR/>That said, it is my hope that the Mind Age, for the reasons that I have stated previously, will lead to a more "Harmonious" society.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35360257.post-49740235130474765162008-05-29T14:39:00.000-04:002008-05-29T14:39:00.000-04:00Gene,Thank you. I am glad that you like the post.A...Gene,<BR/><BR/>Thank you. I am glad that you like the post.<BR/><BR/>As you said, "harmonious" might not be a good name because it is too perfect. Real human society is, however, always imperfect. In person, I have the similar thought too. Hence, just as I wrote at the beginning of this post, I may just simply name it the new Web age, a fairly neutral name. But this name is given by Adam Lindemann. Since I am extending his thought in more details, I adopt his presentation. <BR/><BR/>About Adam Lindemann. He is both of a thinker and an entrepreneur. In particular, he is planning to build a company called "Imindi". This is his long-term dream that is going to produce a product called Thought Engine that helps Web users organize their mind. He has compelling thoughts about his product. After discussing with me, we found that his thoughts well matched to my vision of Web evolution. Moreover, we have a similar thought about the future, not only the future of the Web, but also the future of our society. (to the end, Web evolution is very closely related to our civilization evolution) <BR/><BR/>My articles on the topic of Harmonious Age are thus partial of our discussion.<BR/><BR/>YihongYihong Dinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08410466834942147505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35360257.post-75235724113893586052008-05-29T10:33:00.000-04:002008-05-29T10:33:00.000-04:00Great post, Yihong!As we know, capitalist society ...Great post, Yihong!<BR/><BR/>As we know, capitalist society has lots of problems and is one stage of the long human being history. Most likely, it will not be the final stage. Harmonious society could be the next stage, though only history can tell. "Harmonious" is an attractive name, but I doubt it is a proper name. There will be some force to change a harmonious state to a inharmonious state. By the way, who is Adam Lindemann?Gene Wenghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05423926746782757128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35360257.post-53947306002610785352008-05-28T16:18:00.000-04:002008-05-28T16:18:00.000-04:00Well, as far as I can tell, humans are messy, huge...Well, as far as I can tell, humans are messy, hugely complicated nanotechnological machines. I don't see any reason why future artificial intelligences wouldn't be able to do everything humans can do, but faster and better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35360257.post-9546289078981258962008-05-28T15:04:00.000-04:002008-05-28T15:04:00.000-04:00Martin,Glad to watch different opinions. I do not ...Martin,<BR/><BR/>Glad to watch different opinions. I do not say that all of my words are correct. In fact, thinking always takes great risk of making mistakes. So I am more than happy to watch critics.<BR/><BR/>But please continue your thoughts. I am happy to listening to that since you disagree with my conclusion, what is your conclusion then? <BR/><BR/>If it is not "humanity" or the ability of creating that distinguishes human and machine such as computers, what else is the key difference? Or you may say that there is indeed no difference since humans are machines. Well, I must confess that it is a fair argument though I am kind of disagree with this viewpoint.<BR/><BR/>YihongYihong Dinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08410466834942147505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35360257.post-50175390089441185612008-05-28T14:56:00.000-04:002008-05-28T14:56:00.000-04:00I'm also a computer science professional, and I th...I'm also a computer science professional, and I think your examples are ridiculous. Sending the same input to different programs will produce vastly different results, while teaching a class to molecule-by-molecule identical cloned humans will presumably lead them to learn and do identical things. The difference has nothing to do with "humanity" or "creativity".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35360257.post-33677096712286608852008-05-28T10:59:00.000-04:002008-05-28T10:59:00.000-04:00gregory,Thank you for all the comments you made. ...gregory,<BR/><BR/>Thank you for all the comments you made. I would be grateful to watch your detailed critics on any opinions I have authored. <BR/><BR/>Thinking Space is a place let thinking be free and be productive. We are human because we think. The world itself will become different if everybody has the freedom of thinking and may have the ability to embody their mind to productive forces. <BR/><BR/>Thinkings is the fundamental wealth for each human. The slogan of Harmonious Age, with my belief, is to allow this intrinsic wealth of humans to be a type of explicit asset of human society. Why do we can do this transformation now? Because we now have World Wide Web.<BR/><BR/>YihongYihong Dinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08410466834942147505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35360257.post-16767131938870033042008-05-28T10:40:00.000-04:002008-05-28T10:40:00.000-04:00i discovered your thinking and writing only today,...i discovered your thinking and writing only today, and i haven't read enough to know all of your dimensions, but, enough to know you have insight and intelligence ...<BR/><BR/>and this new transition post maybe needs tightening ...<BR/><BR/>i will offer that you are going to have to take this all the way, from mind, to consciousness ...<BR/><BR/>some definitions needed at this point to have a coherent conversation, and that can be boring<BR/><BR/>maybe i will wait until part ii, then tell you what i think ... whether you are interested or not!gregoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14408369948377761936noreply@blogger.com